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Kevin English: [00:00:00] Picture this. You were always a big kid. Your mom referred to you lovingly as big boned. But because you were active, you were never considered obese. But then you got married and had kids. And then your marriage fell apart. And now you're a single parent trying to juggle the emotional mess of divorce with taking care of the kids and focusing on your career.

And then your parents become ill. Very ill. They both have strokes and there's complications with Alzheimer's and dementia. You're a single dad and you and the kids move in with your terminally ill parents. You've long ago, given up on any kind of self care routine or exercise. And now you find your weight tipping the scales at over 300 pounds.

Your health continues to deteriorate. And the scale keeps rising until one day you find yourself in the hospital for a two week stay. By now you're morbidly obese, close to 350 pounds. And you're worried that you won't be around for your kids. What goes through your mind at a time like this? What hope do you have.

Hello and welcome to the over 50 health and wellness podcast. I'm your host, Kevin English, a certified nutritionist and personal trainer and founder of the silver edge. Our mission at the silver edge is to inspire men and women in their fifties, sixties, seventies, and beyond to live their strongest, healthiest, most fulfilling lives.

And today's episode, we talk with Trey Massey. Trey is a 62 year old with an amazing transformation story. Five years ago, he was morbidly obese and in the hospital. Today he's training for his next bodybuilding competition. Joining us this week is Trey shares his amazing journey and how he's using this experience to launch his new company. If I can, you can too.

And now onto today's show.

Hello. My guest today is Trey Massey. Trey is a 62 year old who five years ago underwent an amazing weight loss transformation. He went from 350 pounds to completing an Olympic distance triathlon and even winning his age division.

Trey is the founder of if I can, you can too. A business designed to create a positive space aimed at self improvement, especially as it pertains to successful long-term weight management, Trey, welcome to the show.

Trei Massie: [00:02:26] thank you. It's pleasure to be here, Kevin.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:02:28] Yeah. I'm glad you're here. Thanks for taking the time. And I definitely want to talk to you about what you're doing today with your platform and your fitness, but let's back up and start at the beginning.

What were you like as a kid? Were you in active boy?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:02:42] I was active, but I was always heavy. It was kind of funny. I grew up playing soccer and tennis and every summer. I was on the swim team, local swim team, but I was always heavy set And I hate generally like my friends, but I was always on the heavy side.

So he's always challenging myself and, you know, I remember as a kid doing those horrible Carnation instant breakfast. Cause I thought maybe that would help me, lose some weight, but you know, long run, I realized it was just more sodium in my system. Probably.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:03:17] Yeah, probably. So, yeah. So it sounds like then from early on, you had a base of activity sound like you were on the swim team every year and doing some other things, but you were conscious of your weight as a child, right? I mean, it sounds like if you were talking about doing, the Carnation instant breakfast and certainly the folks over 50 will remember those so when you were.

When you were a kid at that weight, how did that affect your self image and, your self going forward?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:03:45] That's just so necessarily self-conscious but my brothers are twins. And so they were very thin they're 10 years older than I was, but they're always active and they're always thin. And my parents were relatively thin. And so I was the only one that was kind of heavyset, so that, yeah, my mom used to say, Oh, you're just big boned.

But you know, I was active in, in hindsight, I know it was more of my diet and what I found later in life is that I have gluten sensitivity, and many people will remember, in our age group, what did you want to eat? Beef Moroni your chef Boyardee, anything. And so, and SpaghettiOs probably SpaghettiOs or something with spaghetti twice a week.

Well, that pasta was just feeding by gluten sensitivity and inflaming, a lot of my legs, especially, but I had no clue. And you know, my parents would say, eat everything off of your plate. I wish I'd had that food. You know, when I was growing up in the depression so, you know, I knew I had to eat it.

That was just inflaming a lot of, a lot of my glands, unfortunately, because I have a gluten sensitivity.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:04:54] That's a good point. So back then, when you were a kid, and I think a lot of our listeners are going to relate to this gluten sensitivity. Wasn't a thing we didn't talk about that. Right? That just, wasn't a thing the way it is today. And there was a philosophy of clean your plate, right?

Our parents and our grandparents, like to your point, they grew up in maybe a depression era. And that was the thing that was very wasteful. You didn't leave food on your plate. And certainly there was the prevalence that was the heyday of convenience foods, right? So all the, all these processed foods now are being made and they're being marketed as, Hey, if you're a busy family and this is a.

You know, a quick and easy way to make a meal and you're not making things from scratch anymore. So a lot of things kind of combining there to affect your weight. So as you get on into say high school, or do you still keep up with your activity and what about your weight during those years?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:05:46] yes. I kept up with my activity and I slimmed down, but I still never slimmed down like my friends, my parents were both teachers and so we still had things out of a can twice a week. So all those sodium foods. Which, you know, all the Chefboyardee had lots of sodium and lots of gluten and that primarily were, they had no idea.

and so I remember as a kid still wearing like a size 34, 36 pants and you know, we're just like friends for all thirties and 30 twos. And it was just very frustrating, but I was active. I mean, the blessing is that I was very active, so I swam a lot.

I just had probably 30 pounds on everybody else.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:06:36] Right. Okay. And so going from high school, then, where does your journey go from there in terms of fitness and health?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:06:44] Sure. My journey from high school goes to college and I was still very active. I played all the intramural things. I didn't, I should have done probably some collegiate sports, especially tennis. I was a big tennis player, but I just didn't. And partially that may have been just the added weight.

But also part of it was just, I wanted to buckle down on my academics. You know, I was fortunate to go to a small school Amherst college and, we focused on academics there, but there's always a weight issue because I just always had, I was just always a little bit bigger.

It wasn't that I was, I was heavy necessarily, but I was definitely. You know, larger. It's just as I said, my mom used to call me a big boned and I was never necessarily fat. I never had, I never had like the huge belly until later in life. But my thighs were always huge comparatively speaking.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:07:45] Yeah, so not necessarily obese certainly. But just bigger than your peers. And you were conscious of that, you, it sounds like you had tried some things and just weren't successful in, in slimming, down to their size. And to your point you know, you may have been bigger, had you not been so active sounds like you, you just remained active for quite some time.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:08:03] I I'm almost afraid of what would've happen if I wasn't active, but you know, I was still wearing, some people will be familiar with, since I was wearing size, you know, Husky pants, what they called them back of the day.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:08:17] Yeah.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:08:18] Wearing Huskies all my life when I was younger.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:08:22] All right. So we got you through your childhood, through high school and college. Now you're out. I'm assuming we're going to start a career and things are going to get maybe busy. At what point do you go from a Husky to, to large.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:08:39] Well, I started getting larger when I started working and I moved to Kentucky and I got married. And when I first got married, I was I wasn't that large. I was probably about 215, which is good size. I'm five 11. So it was, you know, still on the heavy side, but it wasn't obese, you know, it wasn't morbidly obese, which is what I eventually became.

Okay. But After we had kids and unfortunately it was a failed marriage. I ended up being a single father and I I had all three kids at various times during the marriage which is very unusual. I, at the time I was in North Carolina and because of the challenges I actually ended up having. The kids in being granted the kids by North Carolina court.

And so I had challenges making food for them. And I have a caregiver gene, which basically means I take care of everyone else, but myself and, you know, that's something I've been working on in the last few years, but as a caregiver, I had no problem cooking, doing the things for my family, but.

I'm a Southern cook. And if you know anything about Southern cooks, we cook. Even if you're cooking for two, you cook for 10. And that, you know, fortunately, when I was cooking for the family, I cook in God, they'd be like leftovers that old when I told you when I was growing up, I heard don't waste the food don't

throw it out. And so, there's probably a little bit more than I ate that I should have just because I didn't want to waste it. And for some reason, my kids, which is very different from me do not eat leftovers. I don't know where they got that from, but they just don't. And I talked to other friends, they don't either.

And so I ended up eating what I made and then made some more the next day. So that just added to the weight. You know, I wasn't cooking healthy at the time. I was cooking maccaroni and cheese, meatloaf and all those good comfort foods that just add pounds.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:10:51] Yeah. So it sounds that we can pick that apart a little bit. Sounds like a whole lot going on in this part of the story, right? Were you active during this time?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:10:59] I was active at initially, but then I became when I became the single parent, I really lost a lot of my personal activities and my activity is more centered around the activities of the kids. And so, a lot of it was sometimes for school, I'd bake brownies, you know, sometimes I go to their soccer games or whatever sports games they had and just, , a lot of it's centered around them, but I love to cook, so I was still cooking.

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Kevin English: [00:11:31] Okay. I think a lot of us can relate to this part of Trey's story. He certainly has his hands full. He's a single dad coming out of a failed marriage. And he's busy with trying to take care of his kids and keep focused on his job. And he's in full caregiver mode. But the one person is not caring for is himself.

And I think many of us can relate to this. We feel obliged to give everything to our children, to our careers. And we forget how vital self care is. When we're so focused on others, it's easy to forget about ourselves. But taking the time, really creating the time to take good care of ourselves means that we show up as better versions of ourselves for our children, our careers, our spouses.

And I think too many of us miss this fact. So Trey's a long ways away from eating healthy and his physical activities have pretty much come to a halt. And things are about to get worse.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:12:25] Actually, we moved to Maryland and I had two plants at the time one was in New Jersey and the other was in North Carolina. So I'd stop at Maryland to watch, you know, see how my parents were doing and my parents and their pathway one had Alzheimer's and the other one had dementia.

And eventually I realized that I either had to put them into some type of assisted living place. So I had to come home and help. And the caregiver in me said, okay, I'm going to come home and help. And so the kids and I came back home and they grew up in the same house I grew up in because, because I had to take care of my parents, you know, it actually worked out well. I, I had someone to help and I had a full-time job, but you know, with all the stresses and everything else, I still you know, I still made it work.

If you ask me what I did during the day, I had no clue. Because my days probably started at four o'clock where I was making sure all kids clothes were clean, making sure the whole work was done, making sure their breakfast is ready, you know, and then getting them out the door and then making sure my parents were okay then making sure that, a caregiver for them was there then going off to work.

Yeah, during the full-time job and then coming back and making sure home work was done at night and just, all sorts of cool things. It was crazy. You know, if you ask me what I did for, cause it was probably about a 10 year period where that happened, as you asked me what I did during that period.

I have no clue. I was just purely on automatic pilot, but I was still cooking, doing things we had to do, but as a result, I was just gaining weight and weight. And the next thing I do, I was close to 350 pounds.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:14:14] Yeah. So tell us a little bit about, we had talked about kind of, as a kid, you, it sounds like maybe you weren't, so self-conscious, it didn't impact you that negatively. What was it like for you as an adult? And maybe it wasn't that big of a deal because you didn't have time to dwell on it. It sounds like, but what was your emotional state in your kind of your sense of self-worth.

At that weight, what I'm trying to get at is where is that point where you made the change?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:14:42] Well, the point is that, let me back up. I, there really, really wasn't a, or I had no feelings in terms of lack of self-confidence, et cetera, because it happened so gradually in a really strange way that it was just me. And so even though I was 350 pounds, I didn't see it when I looked in the mirror. I mean, that's the crazy thing about dysmorphia one way or the other, is that even if you are 350 pounds, at least for me, even though I was 350 pounds, I didn't see 350 pounds.

And did I have problems with my asthma? Yes. Did I have problems when I'd walk with my kids? Yes. But did I, did they really say again, that that was a problem? No, which in hindsight I find it hard to believe, but that's just the way my mind interpreted it. Now, when did I make the change?

The change happened with the kids started leaving the house growing up and slowly, surely my parents passed away, they had strokes. And I also had two brothers and they had strokes. They're 10 years older than I was, but, so I ended up taking, helping to take care of them too. Well, guess what if you've got four people in your family have strokes?

There's probably pretty just disposition that you could have a stroke. So that came to my mind as well as, you know, what do I need to do to get rid of some of those risk factors so I won't have a stroke? Because I did not want to do to my kids, what was done to me in terms of how we would take care of everybody.

And I didn't want to find that if they had the caregiver gene or not either. And I, so what I did was just come to the realization, Hey, I don't have my family longer. And by kids are grown up, guess who I can take care of it for the first, however long time? Me. And you know, that took a lot of things. It probably the two things I've learned on the journey is forgiveness and patience.

And patience was that as a single parent, I didn't have time to, to really be patient. You know, if I didn't do anything, the kids' clothes wouldn't be clean, you know, their homework wouldn't be done. So I had to do everything now, now, now, which is nuts. But that was the mode I was in. That was the mode I was in for about 10 or 15 years.

Only recently have I learned, well, you know what. Now if I don't get food, it's me, that's, that's a big deal. Yeah. And I can be patient and I don't have to do things immediately. I can think through things. And the other one is forgiveness and forgiveness has so many prongs to it.

You know, there's one forgiveness that I forgive you. There's another one that, you forgive me. And the whole thing is that learning that if I forgive forgiving myself so that, if I cheat on a diet or whatever, it's okay. And that was one of the big things I learned is that it's not about, , cheating and that type of thing for dieting it's more about learning how to properly eat.

And so. What happened when I got on this road to finding proper nutrition. And that's when I found out or I've actually, I was watching TV. I saw this guy running around in a bacon suit and that was Able James and he did the wild diet. I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's based about the Paleo way of eating.

And so I read that and I learned how to eat paleo. And it talked about proper nutrition and organic food, that type of thing. And that coincided with a biggest loser contest at work. Yeah. I'm very type a competitive. So I did the biggest loser contest and strated eating paleo. And I learned while I was 300 plus pounds, so that I could easily lose weight because any type of when you're that heavy, almost any type of diet you're on, you'll lose weight because you're throwing out all the other junk.

So I lost 40 pounds and actually won the contest. But in doing that, I started going through sites and learning about the way I was eating. And I found this cook. They, they look on Labrada nutrition. And Labrada nutrition just had different products that appealed to me. They had something called EFA Leans, which was basically essential fatty acids and learning that, you know what, it's okay to, you know, you need to eat some fats or have some fats in your diet.

So Labrada really turned things around in terms of learning their products and they had a contest too, they had a transformation contest that I entered and they also had this great support website that I still belong to.

That a lot of us just talk back and forth on and give each other support. And they have just incredible information on nutrition and I learned how to really, to properly eat and learn more about carbs and proteins and vegetables and learn, you know, what portion size I should have and that type of thing.

And so, that's where I probably started using supplements. But, it wasn't just a protein drink 24 seven. That was just part of what I was eating.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:20:26] Yeah. So it sounds like initially there was, obviously you had to do some dieting, you needed to be in a calorie deficit, but it sounds to me like before this time in your life, you really hadn't thought about nutrition. You were cooking good, old Southern cooking, which most of us know those of us here in the South, I'm in North Carolina, you know, there's a lot of fat in that and you're right.

We. Tend to cook a lot and we have leftovers and et cetera. So you were introduced to it, this paleo diet and about the same time, there's this biggest loser challenge at work to your point, you've got this competitive edge you get in there. And now with a little bit of newfound knowledge on nutrition coupled with a desire to, win this contest and.

And lose some weight. You had some great success, but you said you lost 40 pounds, I think in that, won that contest. And then onto the Labrada you kind of got connected with those folks and started really deep diving into nutrition, starting to understand macronutrients and the importance there. At what point did you discover the gluten intolerance?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:21:24] Actually just a little bit before that I was one of my best friends in my life. I was at his house and, you know, he started a gluten diet and his wife was a doctor and she was saying, You know, you should try this test. And so I decided to try the gluten test. It was just a cotton swab that I sent in and it came back that I had gluten sensitivity, you know, it wasn't celiacs, but it was gluten sensitivity.

And so a big piece of my evolution was finding out that you know, pastas and all those things inflamed my system. So that once I cut those things out, the breads and the pasta, it was amazing the difference. And you know, the blessing is what's amazing to me is that my pants size now is smaller than it was in junior high school.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:22:20] Yeah, and there's a video and I'll put the link to the video in the show notes, but there's a video of you with the pair of pants that you used to wear, wearing the ones that you wear now. And it's it's quite quite a difference now. So you've had quite a health journey. I believe I saw maybe in one of those videos as well, or maybe read this on your site, but about five years ago you were really, really sick.

Right. Didn't you spend a couple of weeks and in a hospital? So talk to us a little, a little bit about that and how, how did that, or maybe didn't that play into your weight loss journey?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:22:52] Oh, yes. Five to six years ago, actually I'm a chronic asthmatic and so I would find myself going to the emergency room probably. On a regular basis, every three to six months. And what would happen is that different things? I'd be, I had doubled pneumonia. What year that I almost didn't get out for Christmas.

Now, what did happen is I got this drug that was very bad for me as a result of that. And it impacted my kidneys. And as a result, I went straight into the hospital. It took probably about two weeks going back and forth because I had this fever and everything else, but no one could really tell me what was going on.

And so finally, my primary doctor looked at my white cell count and said, you need to go to the hospital immediately. And so I worked in the hospital and they told me my kidneys were malfunctioning. And it was very scary to be about 330 to 350 pounds in a hospital. And being told there was a very good chance that I, you know, I might have to go on dialysis. Finally, luckily they found out what the drug was. They put me on the correct antibiotics and they now, you know, I'm at 99% full functioning, but my, I think it was called my Basal rate was terrible back then.

And you know, that was probably my. My whole thought processes that, you know what? I don't want to ever be this helpless was again, 330 pounds in a hospital about to lose my kidneys, you know, about to go on dialysis. It's not, it's no way to live. And I saw my parents and my brothers with strokes, and I just did not want to ever be in that position again.

So, , that was part of my catharsis. Is that okay now, you know, what is a bigger wake up call than being in the hospital at 330 pounds? I don't know of one, especially if you've got a history of stroke. So, , that was part of my determination is that I've got to do something about this weight, I've got to do something about my health as well as just , I realized that the journey is not just about health it's about what, what goes into their health as well as what got you there.

So, , that's also, when I started seeing a mental health professional too a counselor, To help me understand. And so, you know, I, I started finding out more about just bad habits that have run my family and that I had. And so, , it, wasn't just a prong approach about learning about nutrition.

It was just the full, you know, I'm very spiritual too. So, , rely on my faith and trying to figure out what I need to do to correct where I was going.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:25:55] Yeah. So it sounds like , as you're having this catharsis in the hospital. Right. And that certainly would be a wake up call obviously you're realizing that your health is pretty important and at that point, your health was pretty poor, very poor.

And, you know, we've described a little bit about your evolution in researching nutrition. That's going to be one facet, but to your point to be a holistic, healthy person, there's a lot of components there. Right? You had, you had referenced kind of a mental health side of that. There's an emotional and social side to that.

There's a spiritual component that for, for a lot of folks, and there's an activity piece of that as well. And I've want to kind of pick apart a couple of those start maybe with the, the activity. Cause we. We know we read out in the beginning of the intro here that you completed the triathlon and spoiler alert.

You also ended up going on stage as a bodybuilder. So we'll get to that as well. But talk to us about, you had that background in swimming. You had that background in physical activity, which obviously you weren't doing at this point. How did you bring that back into your life?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:26:59] well, as I said, I got connected with the Labrada people and I just had started having physical challenges. And I, as I said, I'm a very type a person. So, you know, the first challenge really was to, to win that biggest loser contest at work. And then. I had another challenge where I was going to lose a certain amount of weight at a time.

What happened was kind of funny, you know, along the journey, you meet different people. And one of the people I, that was an MMA fighter and we had a challenge that if I look, I had to lose a certain amount of weight, which was a welterweight weight, which is 170 pounds by the fighters fight and I actually lost I got to 166 pounds.

And so that was kind of the challenge. And that was through proper eating and that type of thing. Then the next challenge was that I had to complete an Olympic triathlon. And had I ever done any type of triathlon before? Absolutely not. I I'm not a runner. Believe me. And so, you know, the thought of doing a 10 K after swimming and after biking was I wasn't looking forward to that necessarily.

But I did it. And, you know, it was just amazing that I was able to complete that challenge. And I was kind of the last man standing. That's why I won the first place, but you know, it was pretty amazing. I got to the finish line and they gave me my little ticker tape and it said first I went, huh?

But it it was amazing. So I won a first place award for my age group, which is great. So I figured, you know, what, I don't think I'll ever do better than that. So that's the end of my Olympic.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:28:53] Go ahead. Go ahead and retire right there. Huh? talk a little bit about what it felt like, what emotions were going through, your head as you crossed that finish line.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:29:06] It was, I guess the biggest emotion was what a blessing that I, I could get out of my comfort zone and the thought that I could do an Olympic triathlon was kind of daunting, but you know what?

It was more like, Hey,you're 60 now time to get out. You know, I want to be able to keep chanllenging myself and do things out of my comfort zone. You know, getting my weight down to 166 was definitely out of my comfort zone. So, but it was a challenge and I did it, you know? Trying to figure out how to, how to train for Olympic triathlon.

But the thought that I could bike and run and swim was totally out of our comfort zone. But I said, you know what I said, at the beginning of the year, I'm going to try this for my 60th birthday.

And I did it. And crossing that finish line was just like, wow. And it was just a blessing.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:30:04] Yeah. Celebrating that victory, right. Okay. So obviously, you had to do all the preparatory work for that. So not all my listeners are going to know the distance of an, an Olympic triathlon. What are the distances for the swim, the bike, and the run on that.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:30:18] Sure. A 1500 meter swim, a 40 kilometer bike. And then a 10 kilometer run.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:30:25] Yeah. So, I mean, that's, those are some legitimate distances, especially if you're swam, biked or run those distances before, so yeah. Hats off to you. That's that's fantastic. But your fitness journey doesn't end there. Right? What comes next?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:30:39] There was a bodybuilding contest that was being held at my high school. And it was about a week and a half before my birthday. So I said, that's perfect.

And what I did was then I I have a trainer whose name is Aaron Nimmo . And I talked to him and I said, look, this is what I'd like to do. Do you think it's possible? And as I said, this journey has been one of those things that along the way, you meet different people. And so through the internet, I found this incredible trainer and he, you know, he's probably in his mid twenties. And so we talk, but we hit it off and , I told him, look at 60. I'm not going to push through anything. If I feel pain, I stop, , there are certain things that you have to understand and he was yeah, I agree with you. I had no problem with that. And so, he gave me just a training routine and I worked through it and I adjusted it for my age.

And , that was two or so two or three years ago. And , I've been working with them ever since. Because he gets it. , , he understands that at my age, there are things I will not do and things I should not do. And he also understands macro nutrients and that type of thing.

And so, , he had done body building contests. So he gave me tips, that type of thing. And, I worked for about five months to be show ready and, and it was incredible. I won two first and two seconds for the contest and you know, it was just amazing,

the thought that I could have a six to eight pack and , I've never had any surgery never taken any magic pills my body building contest was all natural. Cause I thought it was important to do that. So I got tested and , it was just such a blessing and I think part of the problem is, is that people assume that if you lose that much weight

you're going to have to have surgery, that type of thing. But I believe, you know, I think some of it, you will have to have certain people. I think their skin isn't that necessarily as elastic as mine, but I also think others lose it so quickly. The body isn't even allowed to adjust. So, if you lose 180 pounds or 150 pounds in three weeks or three months, it's a lot different for me where I lost over a two to three year period.

So my body was able to adjust. So yes, you know, there are parts of my, my body where you see, you know, fat or, you know, extra skin. Yeah. But it's not what I would say, gross or disgusting or needing the surgery. It's just, you know, I lost a lot of weight.

Yeah. Yeah, you sure did.kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:33:36] And to your point, you lost a lot of weight. Over a long period of time, right? And you didn't gain that weight very quickly. Nobody does. And I think that a lot of our culture, especially kind of this instant gratification culture that we live in, we expect this weight loss and, and a lot of time and marketers and other people grab a hold of that.

Right? Hey, you can lose 10 pounds in 10 days. And you know, maybe you can, maybe you can, but whether you should do that as another discussion altogether, it takes a long time to accumulate. Excess weight and if done responsibly. It takes a long time to lose that weight. Right. I think you had mentioned that less than going on a diet, more you changed the way you, you ate.

And it was an, it was an evolution. I imagine it still is. Right. It's I think that nutrition is more of a journey and less of a destination. Is that, is that fair?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:34:27] The lifestyle or the,

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:34:28] It's a lifestyle. Yeah.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:34:29] I thoroughly enjoy what I do for sure. As I said, I was a single parent, so I know how to cook. Cooking's not and issue.

Let me back up a little bit. One of the things I didn't understand in this journey is how to eat properly. And so I would regularly skipped breakfast. And, you know, try to have a small lunch and probably a lot for, for dinner and a lot of unhealthy things for dinner. So the pastas and I said all the things that were inflaming my systems.

Well, as I went through this journey and learned more about my nutrition, I ate breakfast and, you know, I love having oatmeal and eggs and, you know, especially like through paleo, I would have paleo bacon. And paleo bacon and eggs. It was wonderful. I mean, that's what really probably allowed me to start this journey because it was something I loved it tasted great.

And now that I'm more careful, my, my nutrition, I don't have as much bacon as I normally would, but I still have the oatmeal with blueberries or strawberries as well as eggs and You know, I season it all up and you know, it's great. It's a great way to start the day. And then I have a really nice prepped lunch such as now, I use a company called Trifacta for a lot of my nutrition.

And so what's really great about them is that they have these fully organic home delivering meals that have all my macronutrients. And so I have organic chicken and the vegetables as well as the carbs.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:36:06] So, yeah. I just want to point out there that you're talking about this amazing weight loss transformation and the way you describe what you're eating. Is delicious and wonderful. Right? You're not, it doesn't sound like you're denying yourself things that you like necessarily. Obviously if you're going to lose weight, you have to be in a calorie deficit.

That's just a, that's just a mathematical given, but you're eating things that you enjoy. It sounds like you're still eating things that you enjoy. You had mentioned paleo a couple of times. Are you still leading primarily paleo or was that more something that kind of got you on the journey?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:36:38] that was more the journey. I don't know if I stopped eating paleo because paleo still is a really the vegetable and carbs side, more clean carbs and vegetables, which is what I do, I eat organically as much as possible. And so to that effect, yes. And even on the meat side, the protein side, I will have grass fed steak, wild caught fish.

And, the chicken is organic too. So, you know, that's all paleo kind of, sort of.
kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:37:11] Okay. Paleo-ish and that's that's fair enough. Yeah. Well, let's, let's segue a little bit. I want to talk about what you're doing today in terms of resistance training, or just in terms of the activity side I see on your Instagram, it looks like you're getting after it fairly regularly.

What does a typical workout week look like for you?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:37:30] Sure a typical workout week is I usually work out five times a day where I will go, I will wake up.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:37:37] times a day, five times a week.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:37:40] Five times a week. I wake up. I mean, I love what I'm doing. So I generally wake up between four and five and go to the gym and the gym opens at five. So I'm usually at the gym between five and six and do about an hour to an hour and a half of weightlifting followed by a, about an hour of cardio, which you either would be swimming.

You know, I either swim 40 laps or I will do an hour of a spin class. And you know, the blessing is that I can do it and feel very comfortable. And then sometime in the evening I will probably take a nice epsom salt bath, which I highly recommend for people who work out a lot. I didn't do it at first, but now that I got, I work out a lot, I find that Epsom salt bath is wonderful for the muscles.

I don't nearly have the Charlie horses in the middle of the night that I used to. And it's very relaxing to go to bed to.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:38:45] Wait, and that leads me into my next question. So it sounds like you're very active, right? I mean, if you're five times a week, you're putting in sounds like some resistance training, as well as some cardio training. Both of which obviously are important for healthy aging. And my next question was going to be, what do you do for recovery?

Because clearly it at your age, recovery is not the same now as it was back when you were a much younger person. So you had mentioned the salt baths and you mentioned the nutrition, which are going to be two key pieces of recover. What else do you do in terms of making sure that you're recovered and able to do all this work?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:39:18] well, the one thing I learned how to do, and it's easier when you don't have the kids and the parents at home,is sleep. Sleep is probably the key to any type of recovery and very underrated. And I probably get between six and eight hours of sleep and I try to get closer to eight, but my guesses, I probably get around six good hours of sleep.

And that's the blessing is that I've, especially as I've learned, my health has improved. I can sleep better. And so that's the key to recovery is sleeping and also just taking care of my body in terms of just, you know, there's a spiritual and mental component to this whole thing too. And I take time to say prayers to say how grateful I am for things, mantras and all those things that help me to recover.

Because I'm a better person when everything's relaxed, as well. As I said, you know, twice a month, I talk to a mental health counselor and that just helps me make sure I'm still on the right track doing the right thing. And I'm in such a better place. It's amazing.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:40:34] it sounds like a very holistic approach to recovery. Then you had mentioned sleep. one of my favorite recovery strategy and I agree that it is very I don't know why, but it's just overlooked so much these days, but sleep makes literally everything better If we're going to talk about recovering from workouts in the gym, it makes that better, it makes life better in general.

So definitely with you there, and you had mentioned a couple of other modalities making sure taking care of yourself spiritually and emotionally. And we'd mentioned faith a couple of times now in our conversation today, Can you just take a minute and talk maybe about the role of faith as, and its role specifically in this transformation journey for you?

It sounds like it's been important to you your whole life.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:41:16] sure. Faith has been important to me my whole life. What's the blessing is that, as I said, I'm. In the town where I grew up. And as a result, I go to the church where I grew up, so that I'm going to the same church I went to 50 years ago.

Wow.

And you know, that's just an incredible blessing because,  there are people that you see every week that you don't realize it, but.

After time, they know you better than almost anybody because they see you, almost as much as your family. And as I said, one of the blessings for me is that when I lost all my family members, you know, all of a sudden I would hear things and say, you know, at the various repass and that type of thing for my family funerals.

Oh, such and such said something about you like that. And I was like, How'd they know that? I realize oh they've known me for 50 years. Of course they know that. And you know, especially during this pandemic, we have something called zoom chapel. And so I'm still connected with my church. And the great thing about this too, is that I've been able to get people involved with the church more active. You know a pastor,

she's always asking me questions and she's joined the gym and a, she. Constantly credits me with being one of her inspirations, which is such a blessing, but she also knew me a 350 pounds. She now knows me at 180 something so that, she knows the transformation is real.

And that's the blessing too, is that all the people at church know how real the transformation is. So they've been able to support it now, were they always supportive though? You know, the ladies at the church at one time were going, Oh, you're losing a little bit too much weight. You know, I don't think that's good. You know, I understand their heart was in the right place, but they didn't understand the nutrition and that type of thing. And so once I got them on board and say, look, I'm not starving. By any means I'm just eating the proper foods. And as I would talk to them, it was like, okay. And , everybody's been so supportive.

Once they got over that piece, because , part of the whole journey for health and fitness is that, you know they're going to be people along the way that will be obstacles rightly or wrongly. Oh, you can have another piece of cake. Oh, don't worry about these brownies.

It's okay. You've been so good. And it's like, no, I don't want it. And , don't get me wrong, if I see a good slice of pizza, I get it. You know, I try to make it gluten free, but even if it's gluten free, one slice of pizza is not going to kill me? You know, two slices of pizza isn't going to kill me?

The day after the the last bodybuilding contest I did, which I believe was back in August now in Florida, I had a whole pizza.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:44:21] Yeah. Yeah. Hey, the cannoli, right? Yeah.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:44:26] And it was wonderful and you know, I'm not going to stop eating things I like, but I'm going to be careful. And especially they have gluten in it. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to do it every so often. So like, do I have cookies in my refrigerator? Yes. But you know, they're, they're, gluten-free that I could pop in my air fryer and have two or three cookies and satisfy my sweet tooth.

But do I ha you know, do I have to have no. And have they lasted in my refrigerator for more than a week? Yes.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:44:59] Yeah.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:45:00] Which for me is pretty incredible because you know, I tell the story about prior to this health journey there was, and still today there isn't a vanilla way for that I haven't liked. And so if I bring a box of vanilla wafers in the house, the next day, there will be no vanilla wafers in the house.

It's just one of the things I like. So, part of my journey is learning not to bring vanilla wafers in the house.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:45:28] That's right. Yeah. Well, and that brings up a good point. So you've been at this for some time now. I think about probably five years, you've been into this transition into you're into the second act into this healthy version of yourself. What do you do? I'd love to hear your thoughts on staying motivated and then kind of the other side of that coin is being disciplined.

Right? And the two kind of go hand in hand, give us your thoughts on motivation and discipline in your life.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:45:56] Sure. I think motivation is just a, what is that? Knowing that I can have a vibrant life and do things and not be a burden to my kids. And so my kids who are in their twenties and early thirties now, and I love being able to talk to them and that type of thing, but not relying upon them for anything.

Unfortunately my brothers at my age, we're already relying upon their kids whose kids they had had strokes. And so, I don't want to be that kind of a burden and also. It's so much fun going to the gym and , kind of being the old man, but no one looking at you that way, it's more like, wow, you're 62.

And , they don't even realize my age, but they know I'm hitting it. It's kind of motivating to keep the young whippersnappers in line and showing them that, you know what, I can do things at my age too. And, they'll say, wow, you swam after that? Yeah. Or do a spin class.

Yeah. You know, what's really funny is when they do a spin class, they, they think, Oh, I can deal with this guy. And all of a sudden I'm going at it. And they're like, no, it's just wonderful for them to realize, the type of shape I'm in. And it's just motivating because it's just such a blessing and what's amazing is I just had my dexa scan done a couple of days ago and I've got 15.9% body fat, which for an old man ain't too bad and last team. And so, you know, 0.9% body fat I've gained over a year. But part of that is just because I'm doing it as actually doing what they call a lean bulk.

Yeah.

Because of the bodybuilding side.

Kevin English: [00:47:49] Okay, hold up. I just want to make sure we all caught that. Trey has struggled with weight his entire life. I mean, complications from his obesity, landed him in the hospital for two weeks with the prospect of having his kidneys removed. He spent years losing that weight. And now he's talking about doing a lean bulk. He's talking about purposefully trying to gain weight.

For those of you not familiar with that term, lean bulking is a weight gain strategy that bodybuilders use. The idea is to eat healthy and to gain weight slowly, hopefully adding primarily muscle and as little fat as possible, along the way. The other strategy that bodybuilders use is often referred to as a dirty bulk.

In a dirty bulk bodybuilders eat more or less indiscriminately. Doing everything in their powers to put mass on their bodies. This type of weight gain strategy usually adds considerable amounts of both muscle and fat. And in both cases, the bodybuilder will attempt to bulk up by eating a surplus of calories.

Along with a strenuous workout. And then dial it back down to desire body fat percentages. So Trey worked on gaining eight pounds over 12 months. And in his case he gained six pounds of muscle. And only two pounds of fat.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:49:08] When I first went on the internet and started reading all this stuff, Oh, you can't gain muscle when you're over 50 and no, that's wrong.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:49:17] that is wrong. That's absolutely right.

Your body

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:49:20] as long as you train it, as long as you eat properly, as long as you sleep, you can gain muscle. I'm in much better shape than I was in my twenties. There's no doubt about it. Are my muscles strong? Absolutely. and everyone around me, all my friends can tell you that. So, you know, you can change your life and you don't have to take pills or operations to do it.

You just have to be determined. Is that what motivates me? Absolutely. And it's fun, you know, I. I really hate seeing stereotypes. So I love being able to break stereotypes and , don't tell me I can't gain muscle. Don't tell me I don't have a six pack. , it's just it's fun. I mean, the thought might I wear a size 30 pants, a size 38 suit.

Huh? Really? And you've seen my pictures, like I had, I can remember a size 48 pant being tight.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:50:24] Yeah, that's a, that's a big difference in waist size. Yeah, that's right. Well, thanks for sharing that. I love that you mentioned that you'd read somewhere on the internet that older people can't build muscle and clearly that's false and all these it false, but the same principles that

work for the 20 year-old work for those of us over 50, right? I mean, it's it's you gotta have the, you gotta, dial-in your diet, you gotta have you've gotta be consistent. You gotta have progressive overload. You got to have proper recovery, but you just have to be dedicated to it. And all of the guests on my show or over 50 and are most of the guests are, and they're fit.

They're strong, they're healthy, they're competent. They're confident. And they're capable. It's just, it's fantastic. And to your point, that's not the stereotype. When we say, Hey, close your eyes and imagine a, somebody 60 something. It's not somebody with a six pack. It's not somebody that muscular and strong is that hats off to you.

That's it. And I can see how that can be certainly motivating for you, right.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:51:21] There is one thing you still have to be safer now. I do not recover like I did it a

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:51:27] Absolutely. Yeah. Right. So a lot of the training principles apply, but then yeah, there are some differences clearly, and recovery is probably the biggest one, right. For, for those of us in the over 50 crowd.

So let's switch gears just a little bit and tell us about, we talked about at the very beginning, you've got a new business going up. It's called. If I can, you can too, right. Talk to us about your inspiration for that and what it is.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:51:51] sure. My inspiration was that I talked to a lot of people. And it's amazing how my story would resonate with them. And for awhile, I was actually, before the pandemic, I was doing a lot of ride sharing and that type of thing. And  as like I took some of the rides, I would talk to people.

I would go to the gym and I was to talk to them and they said, well, why are you going to the gym? I said, well, Know the exercise and I used to be350 pounds. I said, what? And so, what was amazing is that at the gym, probably a couple of weeks later, someone would come up to me and say, Oh, you probably don't remember me, but I gave you a ride.

And I've lost about 20 pounds. And, you know, because basically what I say to them is that, you're not gonna lose 150 pounds overnight, but you can always make small changes. That's the most important thing is that I learned how to walk before I ran.

So, was I doing this in the gym? No, for the first few months I was walking on my treadmill and walking on the treadmill, probably bit like five minutes on my treadmill, which was, daunting at the time now, five minutes on the treadmill. She was like, well, I can remember doing, you know, the elliptical.

I've got an elliptical. And I would swear it was broken because I could last a minute. And that was it. And that was his fact, but talking to Uber drivers. And you know, they would come back to me later and say, Oh, I cut out, drinking the sodas.

You know, I cut out such and such and I've lost this weight. I say that that's great. And as I said, I've been connected with trifecta foods for awhile and the owner of Trifacta. He said he had some really kind words to me, his name's Greg Caudalie. And he said, Trey, especially with boomers, you resonate.

And a lot of people see, you know, your story and they think, well, if he can do it, I can too. And I said, Hmm. I liked that. And I said, well, if I can, you can too. And so that's kind of how the, the name originated, but because I'm not a special athlete, you know, I'm just a guy who's good at, you know, had a desk, job books.

In his life and trauma and stress and sandwich generation, like most of the people out there that, they can relate to the story where, Just slowly made changes to my life. And you know, there's no reason why, if I can, no one else could do it. I mean I really believe that, I haven't taken any special pills.

I've just learned how to eat properly and I've learned to do it over time. So, I encourage you to take, nice walk. Yeah, walk the dogs. If you can just do something slowly, if you're morbidly obese, don't think you're going to change overnight and don't think, you're going to be able to do a triathlon in a year necessarily.

I didn't, but I just slowly did things to improve my health and little by little as I saw the improvement, it motivated me to do more. And, next thing I knew I was out of my comfort zone and if I skivvies doing body building contest, how funny is that?

Kevin English: [00:55:18] I just want to jump in here and reiterate something that Trey has mentioned repeatedly throughout the story. And that's the importance of taking small steps. Our culture has conditioned us to expect immediate results and many, a workout plan or diet has failed because we're not seeing results fast enough.

The thing I want to emphasize here is that small progress is still progress. And further. Even very small changes over a long period of time can make for remarkable results. But this isn't sexy, frankly it's a hard sell for a lot of people, but patience and dedication will absolutely pay off in the long run.

Keep in mind that tres weight loss journey took years. I asked Trey what's next for him?

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:56:04] It's just getting these, the, if I can, you can't too off the ground and motivating people. And you know, when the pandemic is over, I'll be able to do that a little bit easier, but I said, getting on podcasts, like yours to get the word out as well as to motivate people because. Especially in this pandemic, we have a lot of people that have gained weight because if you're not outside, if you're not going to the gym, which most people can't and you need to do something to improve your weight.

Now, one of the things we did not even discuss now.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:56:41] I was just going to say, we never talked about your COVID. Yeah. And your COVID story. Yeah. Hit us. Let's hear it.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:56:47] Okay. I had COVID in the June, July timeframe. And the blessing for me is that it was basically a non event. Do I have risk factors? I'm African-American I'm over 60, I've got asthma. Chronic asthma are type a positive. I've got a few risk factors. And guess what? I used to be morbidly obese. And so I'm not obese now, but I still have kind of a it would be easy for the cytokine storm to attack me under the wrong conditions.

And my kids that I were talking that, you know, if this had happened to be six years ago, I probably would be on a ventilator in the hospital. But, did it impact my sleeping? Yes. But basically. Nothing else. And the blessing is that I have no, long term, no long haul symptoms.

And I came out of feeling strong and blessed. And you know, I think that's one of the things that we don't emphasize enough is that if you're healthy, you lower the risk. And the impact of anything, including COVID. I mean, that's those statistics show that, you know, now, is there a story about a marathoner who got COVID and died?

Yes, but those are anomalies for the most part. If you're healthy, it will not impact you as greatly as it would if you were obese.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [00:58:24] and to your point, that goes for a lot of things, right. Being healthy and fit is going to make you more resilient, certainly in times of global pandemics, but for just the flu that's been around forever. Right? For falls, we know that people would do resistance training, have stronger and more dense bones and are Quicker healers.

So yeah, the more risk factors you can remove the better your health is going to be overall and the better your chances of surviving something. And by surviving, I mean, obviously surviving, not, not coming to it, but yeah, having it not be as dramatic as it would be.

If you had a number of these other risk factors is certainly going to be in your favor.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [00:59:07] exactly. That's the whole thing. I had a great talk with my pulmonologist because, we were so oriented. You get a vaccine, you take a pill, what's the best way to eliminate illness? It's to be healthy. It's to eat properly it's to sleep properly it's to try to get as much stress out of your life, which is not so easy, but all those things help

and are proven to help have a long, healthy life. And, one of my friends we were talking and he said, Trey, well, you deserve to be happy and you're right. You know, and happiness this flows from health and be able to do things that ordinary, you know, that you couldn't otherwise.

I mean, that's why I feel so blessed now, you know? I could do practically anything. I want to that. And I couldn't do that at age 40 or 50 I mean, I remember going to football games, with my kids and I be out of breath. something as simple as going to the amusement park was horrible for me, because guess what?

I was too fat to get on some of the rides. I mean, I can remember try to go to the roller coaster and I couldn't because I couldn't fit into the cart. And that's not a good place to be. If you want to be a good parents and have fun with your kids. You know, I don't know how many times I just waited for them to get off the ride. I don't have to anymore, there's just a whole, whole piece of my life and facet of my life.

I can enjoy that. I couldn't enjoy before. And you know, I just encourage people, you're not going to stop being obese overnight, but if you really want to. And I realized some people don't want to, but if you want to just be gentle with yourself and encourage yourself and slowly try.

And my results are off the charts but is there a reason why you can't lose 20 pounds and keep it off? No. But there are simple changes, as I said, just take a nice walk every night, eat more asparagus but more importantly find

what things you do like that are healthy, no one says you have to eat chicken and fish every day, as well as, you know, one of the things I did was change how I ate beef. I usually have grassfed beef. I really think that makes a difference, little things in terms of what food you put into your mouth.

If I see a box that I can't pronounce, what's on the side in the ingredients, I won't buy it. , just little things like that can add to your healthy lifestyle, but you have to be willing to make the change. No one can make the change for you and know you can rely upon some medicine and that type of thing, but that's the place to be, if you don't, you know, you don't want it.

I mean, I just, I just know my brothers, their strokes, my parents with their strokes, if I can help it, or if I, you know, genes, you can't change genes, but you can certainly change. Your impact the impact of your genes and then your lower, your risk factors. And I want to do everything. I can, they have done a lot of what I can to lower my risk factors.

I mean, my blood pressure is so much better than there ever was. My triglycerides I mean all those numbers are so much lower than they were. I was pre-diabetic no longer. And it's just, it's just amazing what you can do with just changes in your diet and your lifestyle. And you know, Kevin, when you're over 50 and 60, you know, you're not dead and don't let anyone tell you your dead didn't do I know what it's like to be a couch

potato watching TV? Yeah, but I also know what it's like to not be one and to go take a nice walk to read a book for improvement. As well as just take some time for meditation and prayer, as well as, talk to counselor for mental health, especially during this pandemic,

please do it. You know, one of the things I want to make sure is that people know that their phone numbers out there are people that can help them if they have mental health issues and you know I'm blessed that I don't have major mental health issues, but it was good for me just to figure out one of the things we didn't talk about

kevin is just that I don't see my weight loss the way other people do because it's dysmorphia. And so when I first lost the weight, I would go places and people wouldn't recognize me. So I, a lot of my counseling was just to get used to the new person because psychologically, physically, and about to say, but also psychologically I'm not the same, much.

Yeah, much more athletic. So I much, I take better risks. I take stronger risks. I'm not afraid to jump at things as well as I'll be places where people had no clues to who I am. They may have known me for 30, 40 years, but until I opened my mouth and he, they hear a deep voice, they have no clue. And even when they do, they'll say, I knew that voice, but who are you?

And that's very disconcerting, but yeah, that's why I needed to talk a little health because I had to figure out what it was, you know? Okay. As well as it takes time for your mind to catch up to your body. And you know, that's what dysmorphia is, is that, you know, I'm at the gym and I can look in the mirror.

And I, I don't see necessarily a person who weighs 185 tablets, which is really strange. Yeah. Am I catching up to knowing?. Do I know it is.? Yes, but I know by the size of the clothes I wear, but that doesn't mean that that's what I see. And it just takes time and you know, there's no reason why you have to deal with all that alone.

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [01:05:18] Yeah. Thanks for sharing that. That's absolutely very well said. There's there is no reason why you need to to go through that all alone. There are certainly there's people out like you out there for inspiration, and there's a lot of mental health professionals out there that are prepared for discussions, just like, as you were talking about my body changed.

I think you said, it took some time for my mind to catch up and that's, that's very insightful. Well, Trey, as we're wrapping up here, I just want to thank you so much for coming on the show today. You're an incredible inspiration. You're a fantastic ambassador for healthy aging, and I certainly wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

trei-massie_1_01-28-2021_141158: [01:05:58] Kevin and I appreciate you giving me the opportunity this show is amazing. I listened to a few of your podcasts and just the people you pray, God are just amazing. You're proving that, over 50 people can do it and, and have a healthy lifestyle and do things and can contribute to society.

And, you know, too often, We're kind of put by the wayside because people just as soon let's put grandpa in the quarter, but no,

kevin-silver-edge-com_1_01-28-2021_141148: [01:06:27] Yeah, that's right. No, not going to go quietly to the corner. I love it. Absolutely.

Okay folks. I hope you enjoyed hearing trays. Inspirational story. I'll drop all his contact info in social media contacts into the show notes, along with links to some of his YouTube videos. Be sure to check out trays website it's if I can, you can two.com and you'll find that link in the show notes as well.

Trey is running a contest for listeners of this podcast. So for the first 100 people that follow him on his Instagram account, after this podcast airs, he'll do a drawing for one of his cool. If I can, you can two coffee mugs, so make sure you check him out and give them a follow.